(Sep 27th, 2018, 03:49 PM)chloe Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, is trolling allowed? I think I missed the rules somewhere..
I have see QueenZelda's post (and the at lease some of the posts I assume this relates to) and I assume the question was prompted by this. Let me state this disclaimer first: The following is not an endorsement of any side, nor does it endorse any (in)action(s) that may or may not take place. I am talking about the natures of rules (and I guess laws) and their enforcement in a neutral manner that doesn't partake to any specific incident unless otherwise stated.
The letter of the rules is as follows:
Quote:Keep it civil and respectful.
Clear sarcasm, leg-pulling, and reasonable jokes are one thing. Attacks and derogatory language are another, and will not be tolerated.
Now, we have other issues. What is trolling? Trolling has two meanings these days it seems, the more "classical" defination form the old days of the internet where you do things for a reaction, among others, and is not by in it self negative, but can be an extended joke such as Ken M. These days most people seem to think trolling is just calling some one dumb, or something some one disagrees with (even if respectful), even (paid) shilling is now called trolling.
If we consider the modern usage and excluding "disagrees with me [respectfully], and shilling" then I would say trolling is not allowed under the letter of the rules.
But we now must take a look at the administration and moderation of a site. There is an old text meme that goes "mods = gods" this was normally said in a thread or chat after some one got banned by a mod (or admin). If the mods/admins act on a thing even if its "legal" and the decision is not reversed that means by default the action that caused the ban (or warn) is a violation of the rules (even if unwritten). By reverse logic that means if the mods refuse to act on something that is a violation it means by default it is legal. After all might makes right.
Now we have the area where things get even muckier corruption / favoritism, of which we have two types:
Given established long term members who normally behave good lesser punishments on minor/mid range things or a second chance because it is out of character for them, even if what a new account would have done the same thing would have been an instant ban/warning. This is more benign then what is normally thought of "favoritism" but it still is but servers to keep the community peace even more so if that long term member is popular among the members. But the end point is that the rules are still enforced, even if a bit weaker.
Then we have the outright favoritism, this kills communities (digital, IRL, and governments), and when in full effect drives people away (in droves, not just one or two). This is what happened to the first fall of NeoGaf that turned it in to a a place for SJWs to talk (then the second fall which spanwed ResetEra not too long ago and now a there is already a splinter of ResetEra).
The end point of this is "Rules for thee, but not for me"
In fact this very subject of favoritism is a major point of drama in the Linux Kernal development community right now, the Linux devs were very much a "We don't care who you are, you need to submit good code" but they just adopted a code of conduct [CoC] that favors "diversity points" over skill and ability, which is needed for something as large as Linux is. This CoC has been used in the past in other projects to remove people who were master of their craft because they said something someplace else that a snowflake was offended by.
But Mods = gods it is up to the moderation and administration team to decide what is acceptable and not and what to act on and what not to.
Do they enforce the letter and spirit of the rules? Do they say "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."(If you haven't read 'Animal Farm' by Orwell you should its a nice light entertaining read)? Or finally do they allow the forum to fall in to a state of anarchy in which case mods and admins are not needed at all.