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Whoops, I didn't realize that I had forgotten to reply to this topic.

The boss I'm talking about in Demon's Souls in the first one -- the Vanguard Demon. If you die to him, you just continue with the cutscene of the Maiden in Black summoning your soul in to the Nexus. However, if you defeat it, you get transported to a bonus area that has a bunch of items you can pick up, mainly consisting of a good heap of upgrade materials, and then you proceed into a cutscene where you cannot avoid being killed by the Dragon God, putting you back on track with the Maiden summoning your soul into the Nexus.

I think I'd have to say that the "hardest" opening boss fight in a Souls game is probably Dark Souls 3, because that's the only one where you're actually put up against a boss with no advantages. For example: In Dark Souls, if you follow the intended route, you avoid fighting the Asylum Demon right away, go around and up the Asylum, get your weapon, and then go back into the boss room on top of a ledge, where you can do a plunging attack into the Asylum Demon for a huge chunk of damage (nearly 50% of its HP), giving you a gigantic advantage in that fight.

Dark Souls 2 has no opening boss fight, and you're just free to explore one of two areas where you can gain souls, get some levels/equipment, and then go into one of the boss fights with some muscle to back you up. Doesn't help that both of the first bosses you can fight in Dark Souls 2 are relatively easy. You can even cheese one of them into doing its dash attack off the edge of the arena to end the battle instantly.

Bloodborne has the Cleric Beast as the intended opening boss fight, and the Cleric Beast is in no way dangerous. It just has a whole hell of a lot of Health for an early game boss, making it feel dangerous. Otherwise its attacks are super easy to dodge and it's just a matter of chipping away at all of that HP. Father G is pretty easy too since you can Power Attack > Backstab chain him pretty easily. The only time he gets slightly dangerous is after his transformation, but you can just parry him at that point iirc and his attacks are pretty easy to read for parrying. I'd say that Bloodstarved Beast makes a harder early game boss than either the Cleric Beast or Father G. Especially when Bloodstarved hits you to put you at like 5 HP and poisons you at the same time, resulting in an unavoidable death. Plus he's much more aggressive than either of those two are most of the time.

I don't know about Sekiro, since I still haven't played it yet, but I will definitely let you know if I think that it has a harder opening than any of the Souls games or Bloodborne once I do.

Here's to hoping that Elden Ring has a brutal opening that bends every player over the table and... well, you get the rest.
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Whoops, I didn't realize that I had forgotten to reply to this topic.

The boss I'm talking about in Demon's Souls in the first one -- the Vanguard Demon. If you die to him, you just continue with the cutscene of the Maiden in Black summoning your soul in to the Nexus. However, if you defeat it, you get transported to a bonus area that has a bunch of items you can pick up, mainly consisting of a good heap of upgrade materials, and then you proceed into a cutscene where you cannot avoid being killed by the Dragon God, putting you back on track with the Maiden summoning your soul into the Nexus.

I think I'd have to say that the "hardest" opening boss fight in a Souls game is probably Dark Souls 3, because that's the only one where you're actually put up against a boss with no advantages. For example: In Dark Souls, if you follow the intended route, you avoid fighting the Asylum Demon right away, go around and up the Asylum, get your weapon, and then go back into the boss room on top of a ledge, where you can do a plunging attack into the Asylum Demon for a huge chunk of damage (nearly 50% of its HP), giving you a gigantic advantage in that fight.

Dark Souls 2 has no opening boss fight, and you're just free to explore one of two areas where you can gain souls, get some levels/equipment, and then go into one of the boss fights with some muscle to back you up. Doesn't help that both of the first bosses you can fight in Dark Souls 2 are relatively easy. You can even cheese one of them into doing its dash attack off the edge of the arena to end the battle instantly.

Bloodborne has the Cleric Beast as the intended opening boss fight, and the Cleric Beast is in no way dangerous. It just has a whole hell of a lot of Health for an early game boss, making it feel dangerous. Otherwise its attacks are super easy to dodge and it's just a matter of chipping away at all of that HP. Father G is pretty easy too since you can Power Attack > Backstab chain him pretty easily. The only time he gets slightly dangerous is after his transformation, but you can just parry him at that point iirc and his attacks are pretty easy to read for parrying. I'd say that Bloodstarved Beast makes a harder early game boss than either the Cleric Beast or Father G. Especially when Bloodstarved hits you to put you at like 5 HP and poisons you at the same time, resulting in an unavoidable death. Plus he's much more aggressive than either of those two are most of the time.

I don't know about Sekiro, since I still haven't played it yet, but I will definitely let you know if I think that it has a harder opening than any of the Souls games or Bloodborne once I do.

Here's to hoping that Elden Ring has a brutal opening that bends every player over the table and... well, you get the rest.
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I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jun 6th, 2018, 11:04 PM
RE: Hey - by Karo - Jun 6th, 2018, 11:05 PM
RE: Hey - by Mr EliteL - Jun 6th, 2018, 11:55 PM
RE: Hey - by Dragon Lord - Jun 7th, 2018, 12:00 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 12th, 2020, 11:02 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 12th, 2020, 11:19 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 12th, 2020, 11:38 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 12th, 2020, 11:57 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 13th, 2020, 12:15 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 29th, 2020, 04:04 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 14th, 2020, 03:59 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Mr EliteL - Nov 14th, 2020, 03:06 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by ShiraNoMai - Nov 15th, 2020, 05:08 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 15th, 2020, 09:17 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by ShiraNoMai - Nov 16th, 2020, 05:37 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 16th, 2020, 08:53 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Nov 29th, 2020, 08:40 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Dec 2nd, 2020, 01:26 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Dec 2nd, 2020, 06:50 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 13th, 2021, 11:26 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 14th, 2021, 03:00 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 14th, 2021, 03:08 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 14th, 2021, 05:11 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 15th, 2021, 01:46 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 26th, 2021, 09:22 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 26th, 2021, 09:33 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 29th, 2021, 05:00 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 30th, 2021, 07:32 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 30th, 2021, 09:58 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 30th, 2021, 11:02 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 30th, 2021, 11:26 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 30th, 2021, 11:43 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Mar 3rd, 2021, 04:33 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Mar 31st, 2021, 07:50 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Apr 25th, 2021, 04:41 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Apr 29th, 2021, 07:25 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by ShiraNoMai - May 6th, 2021, 05:08 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - May 6th, 2021, 07:47 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - May 20th, 2021, 08:07 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - May 20th, 2021, 09:23 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - May 21st, 2021, 11:13 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jun 8th, 2021, 04:38 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jun 8th, 2021, 05:33 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jun 8th, 2021, 06:07 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jun 10th, 2021, 12:13 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jun 10th, 2021, 08:09 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jun 18th, 2021, 11:56 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jun 19th, 2021, 05:59 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jul 11th, 2021, 12:24 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jul 11th, 2021, 09:33 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jul 16th, 2021, 06:26 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jul 19th, 2021, 10:42 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Aug 9th, 2021, 11:45 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Sep 25th, 2021, 07:56 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 22nd, 2021, 10:32 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 24th, 2021, 09:24 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 24th, 2021, 10:03 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 25th, 2021, 08:36 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 26th, 2021, 11:03 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 27th, 2021, 02:36 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 27th, 2021, 08:25 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 28th, 2021, 08:21 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 13th, 2021, 04:28 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Dec 7th, 2021, 07:17 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Dec 7th, 2021, 10:34 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Dec 14th, 2021, 08:44 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 10th, 2022, 08:35 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 11th, 2022, 05:07 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Karo - Jan 16th, 2022, 05:44 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Jan 16th, 2022, 08:05 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Feb 3rd, 2022, 09:51 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Feb 5th, 2022, 04:40 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Feb 17th, 2022, 07:27 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by ShiraNoMai - May 12th, 2022, 05:22 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - May 14th, 2022, 02:54 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jun 14th, 2022, 05:08 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Karo - Aug 1st, 2022, 12:23 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Aug 2nd, 2022, 08:11 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Aug 6th, 2022, 11:36 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 20th, 2022, 11:47 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 28th, 2022, 02:51 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 30th, 2022, 09:52 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Mr EliteL - Nov 13th, 2022, 01:20 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 13th, 2022, 08:12 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Jan 27th, 2023, 09:38 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Sep 2nd, 2023, 12:25 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Sep 2nd, 2023, 06:53 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Oct 22nd, 2023, 10:40 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Oct 23rd, 2023, 06:09 AM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Nov 13th, 2023, 11:14 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Apr 9th, 2024, 11:10 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Dragon Lord - Apr 11th, 2024, 08:32 PM
RE: I am but a humble Shrimp. - by Moonface - Apr 16th, 2024, 11:04 PM

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