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You ever heard of a site called Bandle? I just learned it exists and it splits the song apart into individual instruments and it reminded me of that post you made talking about AI or something being able to highlight certain instruments in a song or something to that effect.
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Aug 27th, 2024, 07:41 PM
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You ever heard of a site called Bandle? I just learned it exists and it splits the song apart into individual instruments and it reminded me of that post you made talking about AI or something being able to highlight certain instruments in a song or something to that effect.
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Aug 27th, 2024, 11:02 PM
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I have not. I looked into it, it's pretty neat. It's another one of those "guess the thing from the clues", but with instruments. It took me an embarassing amount of time to figure out today's song considering how many times I've heard it. The difference here is this is clearly a MIDI instrumentation of the song, rather than extracting the various parts from the song. That's the reason you might use an AI splitter, after all.
I know you didn't ask this, but I think AI splitters are an actually defensible use of this AI stuff. Rather than stealing music to make your own, it's just listening REALLY hard and grabbing the individual frequencies. It's actually how the newest Beatles song was made. Yes, there was a new Beatles song made. In 2023. We live in amazing times. But anyway, they happened to have an AI that could extract John Lennon's voice from an old demo of the song that was originally too noisy to use, and had some George Harrison guitar work from when they tried to make it the first time, and out came Now and Then. It's a fine song; not a lost classic or anything, but perfectly acceptable.
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Aug 27th, 2024, 11:02 PM
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I have not. I looked into it, it's pretty neat. It's another one of those "guess the thing from the clues", but with instruments. It took me an embarassing amount of time to figure out today's song considering how many times I've heard it. The difference here is this is clearly a MIDI instrumentation of the song, rather than extracting the various parts from the song. That's the reason you might use an AI splitter, after all.
I know you didn't ask this, but I think AI splitters are an actually defensible use of this AI stuff. Rather than stealing music to make your own, it's just listening REALLY hard and grabbing the individual frequencies. It's actually how the newest Beatles song was made. Yes, there was a new Beatles song made. In 2023. We live in amazing times. But anyway, they happened to have an AI that could extract John Lennon's voice from an old demo of the song that was originally too noisy to use, and had some George Harrison guitar work from when they tried to make it the first time, and out came Now and Then. It's a fine song; not a lost classic or anything, but perfectly acceptable.
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Aug 28th, 2024, 12:13 AM
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Ah, I wasn't aware the site was using a MIDI version of the song. I didn't really get to hear the song because the streamer I saw using it today got the answer in like 5 seconds with just the first clue.
Oh yeah, I agree that using AI for the purpose you mentioned is a good use for it. Especially since I don't know if a human could even replicate what the AI is doing if they were working from a commercial release of a track from somewhere like Spotify or a CD.
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Aug 28th, 2024, 12:13 AM
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Ah, I wasn't aware the site was using a MIDI version of the song. I didn't really get to hear the song because the streamer I saw using it today got the answer in like 5 seconds with just the first clue.
Oh yeah, I agree that using AI for the purpose you mentioned is a good use for it. Especially since I don't know if a human could even replicate what the AI is doing if they were working from a commercial release of a track from somewhere like Spotify or a CD.
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Aug 28th, 2024, 12:27 AM
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Realistically, you can't. You would want the "stems", or individual instruments of the song (most songs are built piecemeal, rather than played all at once in a single recording). Once a song is released into the wild, it's just one giant mash of frequencies that you'd need to pick apart individually. I guess with some software trickery, you could isolate frequncies, but not to the point that you'd retain the original timbre of the instrument.
Edit: and immediately, now that I think about it, that "software trickery" is literally what MP3 does, but in reverse? Like, MP3's whole schtick is that it takes out the frequencies that do not add anything to the song, and that compresses the file data. Theoretically, a human with the code of an MP3 compression algorithm could reverse-engineer a way to get out individual instruments? It's a long shot, but it is a possibility, now that I think about it.
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Aug 28th, 2024, 12:27 AM
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Realistically, you can't. You would want the "stems", or individual instruments of the song (most songs are built piecemeal, rather than played all at once in a single recording). Once a song is released into the wild, it's just one giant mash of frequencies that you'd need to pick apart individually. I guess with some software trickery, you could isolate frequncies, but not to the point that you'd retain the original timbre of the instrument.
Edit: and immediately, now that I think about it, that "software trickery" is literally what MP3 does, but in reverse? Like, MP3's whole schtick is that it takes out the frequencies that do not add anything to the song, and that compresses the file data. Theoretically, a human with the code of an MP3 compression algorithm could reverse-engineer a way to get out individual instruments? It's a long shot, but it is a possibility, now that I think about it.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
I had wanted to put an image here of a Guilmon birthday cake or something to that effect, but the internet is a cursed place and believe it or not this was somehow the best thing I could find...
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
I had wanted to put an image here of a Guilmon birthday cake or something to that effect, but the internet is a cursed place and believe it or not this was somehow the best thing I could find...
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....meanwhile I baked you a fresh Guilmon bread that doesn't look shot in the head...
Hope you enjoy your day, friend!
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Sep 18th, 2024, 06:56 PM
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....meanwhile I baked you a fresh Guilmon bread that doesn't look shot in the head...
Hope you enjoy your day, friend!
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Happy Birthday Cricket! I hope you have an amazing one!
The guilmon cake doesn't look the best, but that bread looks cute!
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Happy Birthday Cricket! I hope you have an amazing one!
The guilmon cake doesn't look the best, but that bread looks cute!
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I'm honestly surprised you found anything, Moony. The Guilmon Bread amuses me greatly, Shira; thank you.
Yeah, it kinda sucks cause I have work today (2-9 PM), but it's been good for me otherwise.
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Sep 18th, 2024, 10:52 PM
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I'm honestly surprised you found anything, Moony. The Guilmon Bread amuses me greatly, Shira; thank you.
Yeah, it kinda sucks cause I have work today (2-9 PM), but it's been good for me otherwise.
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Sep 19th, 2024, 06:15 AM
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Happy (late) birthday to you I hope you had a good one.
Oddish question: Do you collect any cards of any kind?
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Sep 19th, 2024, 06:15 AM
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Happy (late) birthday to you I hope you had a good one.
Oddish question: Do you collect any cards of any kind?
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Not real cardboard, no. I've been into Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel recently, so I suppose I've been collecting digital cardboard, and I'm in a group that plays MTG Commander online (again, with digital cardboard). I used to collect Digimon Cards, but I stopped being able to afford the boxes, so I stopped, sadly.
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Not real cardboard, no. I've been into Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel recently, so I suppose I've been collecting digital cardboard, and I'm in a group that plays MTG Commander online (again, with digital cardboard). I used to collect Digimon Cards, but I stopped being able to afford the boxes, so I stopped, sadly.
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ASDFFFLIPDEJKPJK...I seem to be unconsciously allergic to the 18th, 2018 was the last time I got it right on the day. >.<
HAPPY...BIRTHDAY Maniak! Hope work wasn't too bad yesterday, and perhaps today or failing that one of the weekend days you have off at least. Having one day off near enough to just do anything for yourself would be fine.
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Sep 19th, 2024, 06:19 PM
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ASDFFFLIPDEJKPJK...I seem to be unconsciously allergic to the 18th, 2018 was the last time I got it right on the day. >.<
HAPPY...BIRTHDAY Maniak! Hope work wasn't too bad yesterday, and perhaps today or failing that one of the weekend days you have off at least. Having one day off near enough to just do anything for yourself would be fine.
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Actually Cricket what made you stop being able to afford them? I know your no longer close to that store, but I felt like you could still afford them even with your customer service promotion?
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Actually Cricket what made you stop being able to afford them? I know your no longer close to that store, but I felt like you could still afford them even with your customer service promotion?
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Sep 20th, 2024, 02:46 AM
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...Okay, so I had a good year where I had to clear out some medical debts, and between that and the fact that the boxes were costing me 70 bucks every two months, I needed to cut out something to be able to make sure I didn't nosedive completely. Nowadays, I could probably afford to get back into the swing of collecting, but it's been so long since I last played I'd effectively have to re-learn the game, especially since they've added more mechanics like it's fucking Yu-Gi-Oh! Really, I'm waiting on the simulator they announced a few years back to come out so I have a guided tour of the mechanics in question.
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Sep 20th, 2024, 02:46 AM
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...Okay, so I had a good year where I had to clear out some medical debts, and between that and the fact that the boxes were costing me 70 bucks every two months, I needed to cut out something to be able to make sure I didn't nosedive completely. Nowadays, I could probably afford to get back into the swing of collecting, but it's been so long since I last played I'd effectively have to re-learn the game, especially since they've added more mechanics like it's fucking Yu-Gi-Oh! Really, I'm waiting on the simulator they announced a few years back to come out so I have a guided tour of the mechanics in question.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:52 PM
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I'm curious, do you have to build up a digital collection of cards similarly to a physical one? I figured digital doesn't involve the costs physical does so I assume you're not buying cards but at the same time it isn't collecting if you just get given all of them for free so I'm curious how it works?
I've also decided the Guilmon cake I found is one that suffered from decompression by being exposed to the vacuum of space outside our forum airlocks. May it float by the window of another ship and spook some poor soul this Halloween.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:52 PM
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I'm curious, do you have to build up a digital collection of cards similarly to a physical one? I figured digital doesn't involve the costs physical does so I assume you're not buying cards but at the same time it isn't collecting if you just get given all of them for free so I'm curious how it works?
I've also decided the Guilmon cake I found is one that suffered from decompression by being exposed to the vacuum of space outside our forum airlocks. May it float by the window of another ship and spook some poor soul this Halloween.
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It would depend on how the game is structured. Probably for the sake of monetization, they would make it so you have to buy card packs, but who knows? They could do an Elestrals Clash, and have the entire card pool available, and monetize through cosmetics only. It's really up to Bandai Namco, at this point, assuming the simulator still is being worked on.
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It would depend on how the game is structured. Probably for the sake of monetization, they would make it so you have to buy card packs, but who knows? They could do an Elestrals Clash, and have the entire card pool available, and monetize through cosmetics only. It's really up to Bandai Namco, at this point, assuming the simulator still is being worked on.
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