Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet

[Moonface]

Seeing this game running at 60fps, along with BotW, really makes me hope that Nintendo's next system is able to run their games at that frame rate. I could even forgive the lacklustre visual quality of SV if it was running at a solid 60fps, instead of the constantly sub-30 we currently have.

[Dragon Lord]

Also, what are people's opinions on the final evos of the starters?

Grass cat starts out as my favorite, but its final evo is super ass. The fire starter actually ends up being the one I like the best of the final evos (though this is a picking the best of the worst kind of situation regardless).

I just can't believe how much promise weed kitty had only to be absolutely ruined in the end.

[Moonface]

I'm on break in class right now so I don't have time to share my thoughts on the starter evolutions, but I did just see that Nintendo announced a patch for this game and that they're taking the feedback about issues with the game very seriously:

Didn't get to read the notes yet on the patch so no idea what's being addressed specifically but hopefully it's good.

[Dragon Lord]

Version 1.1.0: 

• Season 1 of Ranked Battles will kick off, allowing you to enjoy Ranked Battles through the Battle Stadium
  
• An issue has been fixed that caused the music to not play correctly during the battles with Elite Four and the Top Champion in Victory Road path. 
  
• Other select bug fixes have been made
  

So nothing that addresses any of the performance issues of the game and just a couple of minor bugs being fixed. 




Also the "We take feedback from players seriously" bit definitely screams "general PR response," so I'll believe they're actually going to fix any of the performance of these games when I actually see it happen, because just last week they were denying knowing that there were any issues with how the games. 

In other news: After a week of watching Pokemon fans defend these disastrous releases, I am now getting to watch them claim that voice acting would "ruin" Pokemon games and that voice acting would cost way too much (you know, from the companies that make billions of dollars off Pokemon and also apparently had the money to waste on a garbage musician like Ed Sheeran to do a song). 

These Gamefreak white knights are definitely giving off this vibe very well to anyone who is criticizing GF/TPC/Nintendo or these games: 

[Moonface]

Any tweets I've seen demonstrating the game with voice acting have shown just how much better the games would be with it. Even if just for main characters it would be something. Heck I'd even take just generic noises, just anything except pure silence. That one singing performance in SwSh was painful because of the lack of any vocal sounds.

As for the patch, I wish they didn't just throw in "bug fixes". I hate any game that does that in their patch notes because then everyone has to manually test stuff out to find out for ourselves what was actually fixed, and I can never think of a good reason for why the fixes can't be fully listed; it just tells me they're hiding something such as just how many bugs the game really has or something.

[Mr EliteL]

I've yet to even see the full all three starter line-ups, haven't really checked anything out since release apart from what's been posted in this topic. I'll have a look now at the starters at least...

Second evo of the cat is fine and favourite out of the 9 designs, but what happened to the last evolution?!
Second evo of croc is meh, third is OK.
Second evo of duck is...don't hate it but don't like it, final one is best out of it's line.

Croc would be my pick out of three though now knowing what they look like.
Looking at the rest of the new Pokémon, there's not one that stands out for me, at least in SwSh there were some I'd look forward to having in my party and spend time on. Would keep the Croc but it would easily be replaced with Arcanine. Oof.

Haven't really got an opinion about voice acting, just accepted what BW/BW2, HG/SS and SwSh (the games I own) had was what we get. Never really considered actual voice acting and I'm used to just reading text for dialogue in other games so I would be fine if it continued that way. Not saying the series shouldn't get voice acting just...eh.

[Moonface]

Oh yeah I forgot to give my thoughts on the starter evolutions.

For secondary evolutions, my view is Crocalor >> Quaxwell >> Floragato, and for the finals it's Skeledirge >> Meowscarada >> Quaquaval.
Out of them all though I think Fuecoco is the only line that I really like at all. The other two are okay but I'm meh on them overall in comparison.

[ShiraNoMai]

I've seen vague photos of them but I'm trying to still keep spoiler-free somehow. It's been a struggle cuz Twitter loves pushing S/V to my feed

I hope they actually address some of the issues. I know going after the real critical bugs is priority, and performance stuff can come after, but good lord. Shipping broke ass games again in [current year] is still baffling, but ugh.

I managed to get the 60FPS mod, but I have no idea how to apply it. Trying to learn how to mod this stuff is strange. It's different than other console mods that exist out there

[Moonface]

For anyone who has played this enough to see it or doesn't care for spoilers to have seen it by other means, has anyone else here seen the ending to this game? I saw it a few days ago and I get the impression it comes out of left field really hard with no build-up beforehand, but even if that's not the case it still might be one of the craziest endings a Pokémon game has had. XD

[queenzelda]

For anyone who has played this enough to see it or doesn't care for spoilers to have seen it by other means, has anyone else here seen the ending to this game? I saw it a few days ago and I get the impression it comes out of left field really hard with no build-up beforehand, but even if that's not the case it still might be one of the craziest endings a Pokémon game has had. XD

Depending on the game you play, I feel that the same ending in Scarlet compared to Violet makes NO SENSE AT ALL. In Violet it actually makes perfect sense impo. But for Scarlet? Then yea, the ending does seem to come from left field. 

How I'd end Scarlet

You'd find out that Professor Sada made an AI android with her husband who was really from the future (Professor Turo) since they both knew he's have to go back to his time since he was only there for a short period. Thus how Turo is known as Arven's father in both games, and the AI android is made to help Sada in her time. But when it goes with Sada to Area Zero, it goes nuts and imprisons the real Sada, who ends up dying from neglect from the android not caring for her. Thus in time, you as the main character (trainer) then still battle the AI Sada, which is the one who admits to going off programming and escapes to the past where her precious pokemon from the past await her embrace. 

-thus my version of what happens alternatively. xp

[aerodynamik]

Does anyone play on a big screen television? Like 70 inches ? Been a while since I played due the lack of time, but I've been wanting to try it out on TV now that I found my dock station back.

[Moonface]

For anyone who has played this enough to see it or doesn't care for spoilers to have seen it by other means, has anyone else here seen the ending to this game? I saw it a few days ago and I get the impression it comes out of left field really hard with no build-up beforehand, but even if that's not the case it still might be one of the craziest endings a Pokémon game has had. XD

Depending on the game you play, I feel that the same ending in Scarlet compared to Violet makes NO SENSE AT ALL. In Violet it actually makes perfect sense impo. But for Scarlet? Then yea, the ending does seem to come from left field. 

How I'd end Scarlet

You'd find out that Professor Sada made an AI android with her husband who was really from the future (Professor Turo) since they both knew he's have to go back to his time since he was only there for a short period. Thus how Turo is known as Arven's father in both games, and the AI android is made to help Sada in her time. But when it goes with Sada to Area Zero, it goes nuts and imprisons the real Sada, who ends up dying from neglect from the android not caring for her. Thus in time, you as the main character (trainer) then still battle the AI Sada, which is the one who admits to going off programming and escapes to the past where her precious pokemon from the past await her embrace. 

-thus my version of what happens alternatively. xp

Scarlet is the one with the professor who's into ancient stuff rather than futuristic right? Now that you mention it, yeah, I actually don't get how the ending fits into Scarlet as well as it does in Violet either, and while I don't know all of the intricate details of the ending your pitch at least sounds like a good way to keep things as close as possible to the current ending in a way that fits the prehistoric/future theme more cohesively.

Does anyone play on a big screen television? Like 70 inches ? Been a while since I played due the lack of time, but I've been wanting to try it out on TV now that I found my dock station back.

Not this game, but @ShiraNoMai did play Arceus on our TV which is 50 inches I think, and that game looked fine on there although it did make the texture quality and iffy anti-aliasing more noticeable (which I'd imagine would be even more pronounced on a TV 20 inches larger). This game however isn't on par to Arceus visually though, so I wouldn't expect it necessarily looks good running a screen that large. Your post did give me a thread idea though...

[aerodynamik]

For anyone who has played this enough to see it or doesn't care for spoilers to have seen it by other means, has anyone else here seen the ending to this game? I saw it a few days ago and I get the impression it comes out of left field really hard with no build-up beforehand, but even if that's not the case it still might be one of the craziest endings a Pokémon game has had. XD

Depending on the game you play, I feel that the same ending in Scarlet compared to Violet makes NO SENSE AT ALL. In Violet it actually makes perfect sense impo. But for Scarlet? Then yea, the ending does seem to come from left field. 

How I'd end Scarlet

You'd find out that Professor Sada made an AI android with her husband who was really from the future (Professor Turo) since they both knew he's have to go back to his time since he was only there for a short period. Thus how Turo is known as Arven's father in both games, and the AI android is made to help Sada in her time. But when it goes with Sada to Area Zero, it goes nuts and imprisons the real Sada, who ends up dying from neglect from the android not caring for her. Thus in time, you as the main character (trainer) then still battle the AI Sada, which is the one who admits to going off programming and escapes to the past where her precious pokemon from the past await her embrace. 

-thus my version of what happens alternatively. xp

Scarlet is the one with the professor who's into ancient stuff rather than futuristic right? Now that you mention it, yeah, I actually don't get how the ending fits into Scarlet as well as it does in Violet either, and while I don't know all of the intricate details of the ending your pitch at least sounds like a good way to keep things as close as possible to the current ending in a way that fits the prehistoric/future theme more cohesively.

Does anyone play on a big screen television? Like 70 inches ? Been a while since I played due the lack of time, but I've been wanting to try it out on TV now that I found my dock station back.

Not this game, but @ShiraNoMai did play Arceus on our TV which is 50 inches I think, and that game looked fine on there although it did make the texture quality and iffy anti-aliasing more noticeable (which I'd imagine would be even more pronounced on a TV 20 inches larger). This game however isn't on par to Arceus visually though, so I wouldn't expect it necessarily looks good running a screen that large. Your post did give me a thread idea though...

Where is the like button if you need one.

[Dragon Lord]

Yeah, Switch games are going to suffer from being spread across a larger screen. Should still be absolutely playable, but expect some aspects of the game to look pretty disgusting compared to when being run in handheld mode.

Gonna be interesting to see how Switch games look on my OLED TV compared to my OLED Switch, haha.

[queenzelda]

@aerodynamik I tend to play S/V on my big screen HD tv that can support playing my PS5 & yes it stutters when in the big towns. But once you leave its not too bad. I have read there is a mod for the game to fix that if you wanna hax your Switch. I don't personally care, I just beat the game, completed my Pokedex in Violet and moved on.